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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
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January '08 "Keep on the Watch" brochure campaign cancelled
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite ini heard that a notice was sent to all boe this month removing "keep on the watch" as the featured january campaign.. can i get confirmation from anyone?.
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They want to make me an elder :-O
by outofthebox inthis is the third elder that tells me that the body of elders will recommend me as an elder in the next visit of the co.. what do you think i should do?
some facts:.
i am still 'in' because of my family.i am ms.i am doing 10+ fake hours (well, some months it is fake), so they see my "spiritual" progress.-ootb.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
I'll say "DON'T DO IT !!! " !!!
I agree with 'uninformed', and I'm an elder on my way out... painfully. Enough about me.
From stories I've heard, if you try the "I was a holy spirit appointed apostate," they'll reply with, "and the holy spirit used this invalid appointment to reveal your evil, Satanic, wicked heart condition." It's impossible to open the eyes of those that don't want to see.
If you want to be an elder to help people, well, that was one of the most disillusioning things for me. Whatever advice you give, whether good, great, or fabulous, the publishers will often do the opposite. As an elder, some pubs will avoid you. Others will annoy you, a few things I've noted here http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/147966/2684127/post.ashx#2684127
Forget about being a big shot. As an elder, you will also be hounded by the CO or other elders about doing more RVs, Bible Studies, problems with you wife's not-quite-modest-enough-for-us clothes, the too-college-minded-and-not-pioneer-minded classes your kids are taking in school. No, you won't be at the top. You'll be in middle management where you're abused from above and below.
Inside scoop on private BOE letters? Yeah, the instructions on reserving an auditorium and getting insurance for the next memorial makes fascinating reading... NOT. Yet, as BOE we've gotten nothing from WTBTS on handling the NBC story. I have a related thread started http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/147814/1.ashx (more on that to come...)
...Sorry, I'm hyperventilating here. I'd say, duck & dodge the appointment however it works for you. Regarding those that I've seen drift away, the best revenge is to live well. Have a happy family. Take care of your kids. Do good in the community. Find a job you really enjoy. Travel. But what do I know, I'm new here
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WT and Awake covers to title, have fun video to follow
by Wasanelder Once inhere you are.
i will use these and the ones unused from the last thread to make a fun with covers 19. .
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
The dog one: The Faithful & Discreet Slave approves Reincarnation - p. 3
How one happy family finds grandma! - p. 12
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WT and Awake covers to title, have fun video to follow
by Wasanelder Once inhere you are.
i will use these and the ones unused from the last thread to make a fun with covers 19. .
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Yeah, the leaf one: "Incontinent while raking? Yep, the Bible talks about that, too!"
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Question about "Status" in WTS
by GoodnessGracious inso if a witness has an ubm .
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does that limit how high they can go in the society ??
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Okay, so he has an unbaptized mate. No problem!
He can still eat crackers, right?
He can still drink wine, right?
Bam, can move up to be the next Mrs. Jesus Christ after he dies.
Er, seriously, as already mentioned, it will depend to a great extent on the local body and the Circuit Overseer. If there are already 8 hotsy-totsy elders, they'll keep him out. If there are only 2 elders, he may be in, no problem.
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WT and Awake covers to title, have fun video to follow
by Wasanelder Once inhere you are.
i will use these and the ones unused from the last thread to make a fun with covers 19. .
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
And the chick reading the Bible, something like: "Ladies - Please ignore everything it says about circumcision"
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WT and Awake covers to title, have fun video to follow
by Wasanelder Once inhere you are.
i will use these and the ones unused from the last thread to make a fun with covers 19. .
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
The dog one: "NEW LIGHT ! ! ! Obedient Pets WILL be resurrected !! The rest go to Hell !!"
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Kingdom Crunch in Vancouver area!
by cultswatter ini was just notified that the kingdom hall in my area is doing a congregation split.
actually it is a merger of 5 congregations into 4 congregations.
the names of 4 of the former congos are:.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
In one US midwest circuit, 2 congregations dissolved, another 2 congs merged into 1. That's 3 less congregations in JUST 1 YEAR!
Congregation I currently attend has increased in publishers, because many have transferred in due to problems in surrounding KHs. Our attendance is high, because every single baby is counted.
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Donations for literature I would spend at Mc Donald's!!! Sorry!!!
by Witness 007 inin my last 2 years in field service in australia tax laws meant we could no longer offer publications for money or directly ask for a donation.
if the householder asks, we would explain our voluntry work was paid for by donations.
i was suprised how many people would give you $10 or $20 dollars thinking it's going to some good cause....however, i would go and buy some lunch at mc donald's.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
I'm still 'in' and wondering how to pose this question to the Circuit Overseer when he comes. Let's call him "Brother Head". First name "Dick".
"Brother Dick Head, since the donation arrangement started, we've been telling the householders that 'we accept donations toward our Bible education work'. In light of new information, should be be telling the householders that 'we accept donations toward the Bible education and pedophile hush-hush fund?'"
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The Borg is Hounding Me Now !
by Maddie ini knew it was going to start soon.
the hounding by the borg is in full throttle now.
i have been experiencing the lull before the storm but it seems to be over and the hurricane is looming overhead.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Maddie,
I'm a newbie here, so not real well acquainted with all of your history. I'm still in, and an elder. As such, I've never understood...
???? Why the heck are elders entitled to invite themselves over to other peoples houses ??? Maddie, why not invite yourself, hubby, kids, in-laws, and your pet alligator over to their houses ?!?!?
But I digress. The bOrg is hounding you, eh? Well, let me give you a little secret, ELDERS HATE TO BE HOUNDED IN RETURN!! Here's a couple of suggestions:
Fabricate grievances against others or that they have against you. Say that you've been stumbled.
Call them frequently at inconvenient times. Crying things like the above. If he says he can't talk to you alone on the phone, get your husband on the line to chaperone.
Bother them the most before the CO's visit. Tell them you're looking forward to you and your husband speaking with him, privately.
Have a sweet visit when they do come, promising you'll do better. Go to a couple of meetings. Arrive late, leave early. Drop off the radar again.
Pick up lots of literature and magazines, don't donate.
Talk to yet another elder or two, tell them a slightly different story. Tell them who is more understanding and helpful with your problems.
Get chummy with the elders' wives, revealing personal medical and emotional problems.
As previously mentioned, show up at the elders' houses, uninvited, and overstay your welcome.
Surprises - elders hate surprises. I'm still an elder, so I don't know what to suggest. Emotional problems scare me. (I have enough of my own, thank you very much.) Do you suffer from Tourette's Syndrome on occasion maybe? Tell them you're looking forward to your husband being destroyed so that you'll be free to marry one of them or their sons.
Sorry, none of those may help you. Just reminiscing about some cases where Elders (yes, even I) were privately saying, "Oh please, can't he/she just fade?"